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collin

speaking as a night person, i'd definitely cast my vote for a fourth scale, although perhaps it's one of those meta questions--it's usually a pretty good indicator for me re friendship that the other person is sensitive to those kinds of logistical issues.

for me, a logistical scale is pretty crucial. i'm a lifelong night person, but was in an accident a couple of months ago, one that necessitated me catching rides with morning people, and it wore me down quickly, spun me into depression, and probably knocked my scores in the other scales down a couple of notches for most of my friends. i'm capable of dealing with people all along the spectrum of high-to-low maintenance, but usually only if they're conscious/honest about where they fall. i can't abide folks who are high maintenance and think that they're low, for example. i'm great with details on a short-term basis, but can only focus if i have an end in site. people who expect ongoing detail orientation exasperate me to no end...

all of which is far more than i'm sure you wanted to know. consider my vote cast...

ML

I'm for having the bucket-contents as a fourth scale: spiritual compatibility. Otherwise, it seems tacked on, an afterthought. But it's really the prime glue or deal-breaker - at least as important as the others.

mad

Yes, this is so dead-on, though I agree with the buckets-as-scale proposal as well. The logistics scale seems necessary as well, but could be described also as "lifestyle choices," I think. With five scales, and a six-point minimum on each required for the deepest relationships, we're looking at a minimum of 30 to make the inner circle. But somehow that seems a low threshhold. 35, perhaps (average of 7 apiece)?

Scheherazade

To be clear, the "no score below a 6" is a floor in any one arena -- not meant to be the average on all the scales. But if someone was a 9 on two scales, you could deal with a 6 on the third and still count them as inner-circle. I think if any one scale is below a 6 they'll never make it to inner circle. But above 6 doesn't get you there on its own -- I think you need average score of 8 on all scales.

I don't understand how to measure "spiritual compatibility." Especially since athiesm seems to me to be a binary choice.

mad

Speaking as a Jew-who-doesn't-really-believe-in-God dating a Catholic-who-doesn't-really-believe-in-religion, I'd say that spiritual compatibility means that your views about religion and God and the place of those concepts in your life are compatible, if not identical. But spirituality and religion aren't necessarily coextensive -- I've known many people whose religion defines them but who seem to have little awareness of the spiritual side of life.

PG

I wonder whether you really need a separate atheism bucket -- someone who was such a hardcore atheist that I (agnostic) wouldn't be able to be best friends with her would fall into the same "there is only one Truth and I have it" category as someone who was such a hardcore Wiccan that I couldn't date him. I suppose that the atheist and the Wiccan wouldn't get along either, but then atheism just is one of the ice tray spaces. There are the people for whom a particular belief or lack thereof is utterly central, and then there are the rest of us.
Though the Rawlsian question is whether there are other beliefs, like in Marxism or stuff like that, that can take the place of religion and make one equally incompatible with non-believers.

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