An anonymous poster wonders why I didn't go to a big-name law school. I have two answers. One is just a restatement of this post; I'd already chosen Maine as my home and the best way to get a job in Maine is to go to Maine Law. I did think briefly about applying to a fancy school further south, and even after I got in to Maine Law my plan was to defer a year, apply to higher tier schools, and then come back here. But I went to visit Maine Law on admitted students day, sat in on classes and wandered the halls, and I was so impressed and excited that I decided not only that I wanted to go to Maine Law, but that I wanted to go there right away. While visiting, I knocked on the door of a professor who had a poster for a conference I thought was cool. She was warm and intelligent and receptive, as was the professor in the office next door, who she introduced me to. I realized that at a small school I might not have the professors who had the most esteemed credentials, but I figured I probably didn't have the legal discernment to tell the difference between the most esteemed scholars and slightly less esteemed scholars. I knew, though, that I would feel and care about the difference between professors who talked to me and would get to know me well and professors too busy or too important to have a relationship with me.
Reason two is that it didn't seem worth it for me to incur substantial additional debt just for a shiny pedigree. Especially after meeting the professors, I was convinced I would be able to learn a lot and get a great education at Maine Law. The magnitude of the loans I took out is burdensome, but not oppressive. If I'd gone to a fancy school, I would have been trapped by my debt. I would have had to work at a high-paying law firm, and I wouldn't have the freedom to leave. People talk about the mobility that a top credential gives you, but I'm not so sure. I think I have enough freedom. Yes, lawyers are snobs, and yes, people will constantly question my pedigree. But I'm able to choose the course of my life. A fancy diploma and a debt that shuts out all other options wouldn't let me do that. I was lucky enough to suspect this going in, and after I was convinced that the Maine Law professors were personable and smart, it was an easy decision.
I considered going to Maine because I love the area- and I also considered some higher ranked schools- but in the end I picked what I could afford- A third tier in my home state- because I didn't want to be burdened by the debt. I wasn't sure if I would like it or not- I had worked in the DA's office but I didn't feel like I got enough of a view of what it is really like to practice law- and after taking my last 1L exam today- I'm still not sure- But I am glad I found your site. It helped me procrastinate during exams- you were right when you said that- and I feel like there are real people- who want full lives- who enter the study and practice of law.
Posted by: Sylvia | December 14, 2004 at 12:50 AM
I made the same decision. After struggling for months with the decision to attend either a higher-ranked law school far from home or a law school in my home state, I finally realized that I would ultimately want to live and practice near home. Suddenly, the choice seemed so clear and easy.
Posted by: Ex Mea Sententia | December 14, 2004 at 02:47 AM
I have to agree with your post. I'm at Maine Law for the year, but am a student at a "pedigree" school - and I can't get a job in Maine despite being from here and living here for my entire life. My "pedigreed" professors aren't any better caliber then my Maine ones - and I don't have to make an appointment with the secretary here to talk to a professor. Some of the best professors I've had have been at Maine. The students at Maine are much nicer (and just as intelligent as far as I can tell) and it's generally been a much better experience. Besides - being one name on a seating chart with 100 other people is highly overrated. If I had to do it all over again, I would go to Maine Law.
Posted by: Crow | December 14, 2004 at 09:03 AM
:-) I think Yale will preserve you, as here:
Literally, once an attorney froze, turned away, reconsidered, turned back, and asked hopefully where I went to undergrad. When I gave him an answer within the tiny universe of acceptable schools, his relief was visible. He happily changed the conversation to that school.
I figured my reliance on the US News rankings to guide my applications made me the world's biggest snob and tool, but I felt better when I was trying to decide between the #14 and #15 schools and East Coast people behaved as though it was so obvious that I had to pick G'town over my state school. I ended up in a different Yankee prestige factory eventually, but I still can't look at the weather report for Austin without getting sniffly with sentimental regret.
Posted by: PG | December 14, 2004 at 12:21 PM
Thanks for this post, I was not the one who requested it but I always appreciate your thoughts on this subject. I chose to attend a lower-tier school as well (currently 2L). I applied to 4 schools and my choice came down to this: a top tier school (paying tuition), or a choice of 3 lower-tier schools which offered merit scholarships. I admit the money was a big influence on my decision, but not the only factor. I assume that I am not all that special and that many people who attend top tier schools could have opted to attend a lower-ranked school for free. The combination of "other" factors which influenced my decision included the strength of particular public interest programs, conversations I had with faculty members, the location (because I did not want to move) and a general sense (following a visit) that I had found a "good match" in the school I chose, among other things.
My goals seem to be quite different from those of many "law school people" I encounter, so that probably also made my decision easier.
In any case, I feel confident that I made the right choice. The only drawback has been feeling like I have to justify my choice. Reading about Sherry's experience helps with this lingering bit of "prestige insecurity."
Posted by: | December 14, 2004 at 03:24 PM
One of the dirty little secrets of the law is that the really big famous law schools are really only big and famous to law students. All law schools are actually regional, and they only matter regionally.
If a person is going to practice in a particular state, and this is most certainly true if the state is rural, they are frankly better off going to a school in that state. They'll have the edge up on the bar exam, hiring firms, and the local practice.
The big famous schools are actually only regional schools for the big cities. The students who go there usually want to practice in that setting, so they have the illusion that going to one of them is putting them ahead of everyone else. If a person applied here having gone to Harvard or Yale wouldn't mean anything, indeed, it might mean that they'd be regarded as smart, but behind the curve for the bar exam.
Also, quite frankly, the big schools often seem to advance theories associated with some developing legal theory in one area or another, which is exciting for the students, but doesn't mean anything to actual lawyers. Once a person starts practicing nobody care if you are schooled in some rarified Constitutional or econmic theory. Probably one in one thousand lawyers in the US have ever heard of the supposedly famous law school professors, but they do know the names of their district court judges.
Posted by: Yeoman | December 15, 2004 at 10:24 AM
If a person is going to practice in a particular state, and this is most certainly true if the state is rural, they are frankly better off going to a school in that state. They'll have the edge up on the bar exam, hiring firms, and the local practice.
Yeah, something I worry about whenever I think I'll get tired of the Northeastern round -- NY, DC, Philly, Boston -- and want to go home.
Posted by: PG | December 16, 2004 at 01:35 PM