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I'm proud to say I'm a Hickey Freeman man, and I won't take this 'no pleats' business lying down. Sherri: 2) The rules: No pleated pants. I'm not saying pleats are mandatory but I am saying that they're perfectly acceptable. I agree and empathize with ... [Read More]

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Your forgetting that people in Cat. 3, and probably in Cat. 2 won't pay attention to this.

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Lynn

Maybe this is just a personal preference... But I don't believe gentlemen should wear short-sleeve dress shirts. If it's too hot, roll up the sleeves or wear something else.

Litoralis

Ok...I generally agree, but why no pockets on dress shirts? I own a few Polo dress shirts that have no pocket, but I think pretty much every other dress shirt I own has a pocket.
And since you are a yacht club officer and should know this sort of thing...what is appropriate to wear on one's feet when wearing khaki shorts and a polo shirt after a regatta? I usually wear Reef sandals or leather boat shoes...what do you think?

hkd

My Dad, a family physician with his own practice, begain wearing short sleeved dress shirts to his office in the summer about 20 years ago. One of his patients actually wrote a letter of complaint to the local paper and a few others chimed in supporting the complaint. Unfortunately, neither the letters nor the protests of his daughters, got him back into long sleeves. He was a Category 3 fashion don't until the day he died.

A.

Oh, I don't know -- I think baggy khakis are pretty sexy. A little-too-large oxford shirt, too. I like the whole careless preppy vibe.

girltuesday

Sweaters that look like a Jackson Pollock painting gone wrong must be banned.

For the fashion-challenged of categories (2) and (3) noted above, who seek guidance, the "total outfit" stores can be helpful (think: J.Crew, Banana Republic). Equal parts preppy & meterosexual. And nary a pleated pant in sight.

girltuesday

Sweaters that look like a Jackson Pollock painting gone wrong must be banned.

For the fashion-challenged of categories (2) and (3) noted above, who seek guidance, the "total outfit" stores can be helpful (think: J.Crew, Banana Republic). Equal parts preppy & meterosexual. And nary a pleated pant in sight.

girltuesday

huh. don't know why my comment appeared twice? sorry . . . .

turboglacier

This pleats/no pleats business is totally out of control. I have, in my closet, somewhere around $1500 worth of pleated suits and pants. ALL were purchased within the past four years, and ALL under the direct supervision of women. Now, the women in my life are telling me that ALL of them must go to the Salvation Army.

In my interviews with men, and search of the web, I find that guys barely care about this, or are divided depending on body type. I believe we've become enslaved to fickle female fashion foibles. Does it impress women, somehow, to know that a man squanders cash to replace his wardrobe every two years because some little fabric nip is in, or out, or in again? Frankly, I think it's vile and wasteful. Marry such a guy and he's likely to choose new suits over sending the kids to college. Good idea?

A wise man once said, "Beware of all enterprises that require new clothes, and not rather a new wearer of clothes." At the risk of being labelled a frump, I must concur.

wab

Cheers for turboglacier. Where did this business of no pleats come from? Answer; some arbitrary fashion pundits paid by manufacturers to try to get men (or more likely get women to get men) to dump good clothes. My advice is the good fashion is fashion that looks good on you. If pleats are more flattering wear pleats, if no pleats flatter your body shape more, where no pleats.

I am surprised a more important rule has been omitted. "Don't wear cheap leather shoes" They look just that - inferior - and they are generally no too good for your feet either.

Eleanor

About the short-sleeved dress shirts -- my boyfriend wore one once, with a tie, for some school project, and the others promptly named him "Burger King Manager." I don't think he's worn one since.

Al Wheeler

Nothing wrong with pleats on suit trousers, but plenty wrong with off-the-rack pleated pants, most of which have the pleats going the wrong way.

Ambrose

Pleated pants make your ass look big. Unless you are pipe cleaner thin, they are a bad look that men get away with because they are wearing jackets. It's simple, really: More fabric means that the object being draped (in this case your butt) appears larger. Avoid pleats.

Also, baseball caps. These are fine if you are playing baseball, or otherwise engaged in some sort of outside activity where sun protection is important, but otherwise it's not a look that works. Besides, chicks think you're bald if you wear a baseball cap. If you are bald, be bald-- but don't go with that Paul Simon look. Nobody is fooled.

tins

somewhat wary of men who follow fashion too closely. a well-dressed man sticks with the classics with an emphasis on tailoring and the right accessories.

a

When in doubt: avoid patterns.

Ben Duffy

I should have read this post pefore posting to the 3rd installment on this topic!

Doh on me.

Jason


I think I fit in catagory 2 and am working my way up to catagory 1. I get complimented (by women) on how well put together I am all the time. I have to get in this pleats/no pleats argument.
Pants without pleats don't look good on me, I don't have hips and they seem to emphasize that fact. also it's embarassing to wear them without a jacket because they show off your package too much.

Jason


I think I fit in catagory 2 and am working my way up to catagory 1. I get complimented (by women) on how well put together I am all the time. I have to get in this pleats/no pleats argument.
Pants without pleats don't look good on me, I don't have hips and they seem to emphasize that fact. also it's embarassing to wear them without a jacket because they show off your package too much.

bob

Pleats/ No Pleats, I'l chime in too. While I know that no-pleats is more fashionable now, I'm yet to agree that you should never wear pleats. With suits, pleats are just fine, if the suit fits. Now, dress-pants or cords with pleats and no jacket are a different story. Women- hear this! If you walk into the majority of the expensive men's fine clothing store, and ask to see the most expensive suit in the store- it will have pleats! No-pleats is more popular with suit-seperates, and quasi-suit stores like Banana Republic, Club Monaco, and trendier (although not better quality) stores. I just bought a $1500 suit tonight, WITH pleats, and as a self-proclaimed Cat. 1 man, I'm proud of it!

Moonraker

I'm a Cat 1 man. I didn't use to be, but after my divorce four years ago, I made some changes in my life. I enjoy dressing well, and it makes me feel great as a person. I believe it's about self-respect. My idea of well-dressed is: Pair of dark grey jeans, a very white crisp dress shirt, a dark grey or black sport jacket and some very beautiful shoes. I have a few nice suits also.

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These are fine if you are playing baseball, or otherwise engaged in some sort of outside activity where sun protection is important, but otherwise it's not a look that works.

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